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Solomon XI
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Posted - 2008.08.09 09:35:00 -
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CCP,
Presently the Arazu is the most ineffective of all Recon's. In fact, the bonus it gets to sensor dampeners is exactly that of the Celestis. It doesn't have any more DPS than the Celestis. It's sensor-dampening abilities are equal to that of the Celestis.
All it gets is a bonus to warp-disruptor range. However due to the ineffectiveness of the sensor-dampening in it's present form, the bonus to warp-disruptor is not enough to keep it from getting killed by any half-decent pilot.
Sensor dampening on the Arazu needs a significant increase to be in-line with the other force recons. Perhaps this:
+50% bonus to the effectiveness of sensor dampeners
+25% bonus per level to warp-disruptor range.
Sensor dampening needs to be able to knock ships down to a range where the Arazu/Lachesis can warp-scramble them safely from. As it stands, I sensor-dampen someone and warp-scramble them, I am still within their lock-on range in 80% of all cases.
Please look into the Arazu/Lachesis and sensor dampening as a whole. It severely needs a buff.
**Here's to hoping CCP reads this** 
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Solomon XI
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Posted - 2008.08.10 08:50:00 -
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Well keep talking. I like where this is head. We have some good debate going on. Any idea's for improvement to said ship?
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Solomon XI
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Posted - 2008.08.12 00:33:00 -
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^^^ My alt. Oops.
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Solomon XI
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Posted - 2008.08.12 19:17:00 -
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Instead of talking about how this system will never get fixed and variations there-of, I want to see some logical idea's on making the Arazu/Lachesis effective once again. Please contribute by helping this thread along in that general direction. If CSM (who are bringing this up at their next meeting I think to begin with) have a good thread to review (same with the Dev's), we're more like to get some changes going to these two ships. 
A couple of good idea's I've read so far:
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Swap the Arazu/Lachesis slot layouts.
+more dampening power for the Arazu
+more combat prowess for the Lachesis
Drone Bay Increase:
+10 to drone bandwidth
+60m3 to drone-bay
RSD Role Bonus:
Arazu: Standard 50% bonus to all RSD Effects
Lachesis: Standard 50% bonus to all RSD Effects
Arazu: 50% longer range to RSD optimal
Lachesis: 50% longer range to RSD optimal
Sensor Dampening Drones:
Make them non-stacking nerfed. They will be in line with eWAR drones.
Ok. Discuss.
Would they become over-powered?
If so... would this be a good start? And would *baby steps* be an appropriate way to bring the Arazu/Lachesis in line with other Recon's? Do you have any other idea's?
~Solo
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Solomon XI
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Posted - 2008.08.12 20:15:00 -
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@ Asno:
Very good read. A lot of good points are made.
~Solo
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Solomon XI
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Posted - 2008.08.14 05:38:00 -
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Friendly poke to thread.
~Solo
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Solomon XI
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Posted - 2008.08.14 11:11:00 -
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I agree. The main issue here is the overall dampening strength on the Arazu and Lachesis in comparison to the Celestis and other, non-specialized ships.
The dedicated RSD Recons need a buff to dampening ability more than anything else. Otherwise, presently, they're fine as they are. Dampening just needs a 50%-75% boost to strength while fitted on the Recon ships. The Gallente ewAF and Black-Op's also need to have their RSD bonuses adjusted appropriately.
So a boost to RSD optimal while fitted on a Recon plus an additional bonus to the strength of RSD's while fitted on a Recon would go a long way to making this ship viable in PvP once again.
~Solo
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Solomon XI
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Posted - 2008.08.15 10:30:00 -
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Friendly bump to keep this topic going. I am actively reading it. 
~Solo
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Solomon XI
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Posted - 2008.08.15 21:09:00 -
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If RSD's were as powerful as ECM, I could agree with the whole chance based idea.
~Solo
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Solomon XI
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Posted - 2008.08.16 08:22:00 -
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Interesting idea. But I don't see anything mentioned about drone bandwidth? Am I just blind?
Note: Nightly bump.
~Solo
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Solomon XI
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Posted - 2008.08.16 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Andreya
Originally by: Solomon XI
CCP,
Presently the Arazu is the most ineffective of all Recon's.
wow, ever heard of a pilgrim?
gimme a break
Off topic, the Pilgrim isn't so bad. I've seen them do some good thing's... 
~Solo
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Solomon XI
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Posted - 2008.08.17 00:56:00 -
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Originally by: Tes Quin
Originally by: Solomon XI
Interesting idea. But I don't see anything mentioned about drone bandwidth? Am I just blind?
Note: Nightly bump.
this is correct, no bandwidth upgrade. the ships' role is to primarily use damps not drones (imho), hence only increased versatility through bigger drone bays.
i also shall do some math to get the bonuses right, maybe some numbers are a bit off, especially the ones on the Keres may not be what i had in mind.
as you can see, i made the arazu a fleet ship with the focus on ewar capabilities (long range & more med-slots) and the lachesis a small gang ship with the focus on being "ganky" (more cap and more tank through more lows)
Aye very good point.
I still, for this purpose, would want to see +10 added to the drone bandwidth so that said boat(s) can field x5 medium drones. Gallente are drone boats, after all. I'd be willing to sacrifice the other weaponry on the Arazu (guns) for an added 10+ bandwidth and a damage mod for drones.
~Solo
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Solomon XI
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Posted - 2008.08.18 17:27:00 -
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Friendly poke to my topic.
Keep it on track please.
~Solo
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Solomon XI
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Posted - 2008.08.20 13:21:00 -
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**Bump** |
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